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Re: How to tell if an A-Bike is real or fake

Post by Sisoje on Mon May 04, 2015 9:39 am

Was there ever original "Red Edition" A-Bike, like this:
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And this:
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Tires are Qing-Da, already mentioned here before.

Thanks.

Re: How to tell if an A-Bike is real or fake

Post by Amuro Lee on Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:37 pm

Yes, they are all fake.

Re: How to tell if an A-Bike is real or fake

Post by ancientbicyclist on Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:49 am

I'm sorry for some reason my post showed up 4 times and I could find how to edit or delete the other 3. I have another question: I see an electrified A-Bike with 10 inch tires. Is this another fake or is there a real 10 inch wheeled A-Bike, that can be electrified?

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=ele ... tedIndex=7

Re: How to tell if an A-Bike is real or fake

Post by ancientbicyclist on Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:19 am

I recently bought a bike on craigslist that claimed to be an early A-Bike. They were not the original owners and did not even know how to set it up. I was disappointed that they did not have the owners manual or carrying case. Also, I was surprised that the bike said "unique bike" on the part of the frame that usually contains the "A-Bike" logo. Was there a cheap imitation sold under the name "unique bike?" Does anyone know the history of this bike?

Re: How to tell if an A-Bike is real or fake

Post by Amuro Lee on Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:40 am

Hi jctan,

The "A-bike" on the pictures you posted is fake.

Here is the post related to genuine 8" wheeled A-bike City for your reference. :wink:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1968

Amuro

Re: How to tell if an A-Bike is real or fake

Post by jctan on Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:19 pm

Amuro Lee wrote:
elaine wrote:I have one that I just bought from a local. It has none of the markings discussed. Is it real?

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It's a fake A-bike definitely.


Did you determine this from the picture or from Elaine noting the missing markings? I wonder if it's possible to determine authenticity by using pictures alone. I currently have an eBay-purchase pending for a (supposedly) original A-Bike. This is the link to the auction: http://www.ebay.at/itm/Orig-A-BIKE-Mini ... 1371520469 (ignore the German description).

Here are the pictures used in the auction:
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The seller seems to think that it's original.

I don't know which model it is. It doesn't seem to have the a-bike.net and Sinclair markings on the side of the middle bar. Is this a fake?

Edit:
P.S.: I wanted to add, I read through the whole thread and tried to apply all of the tips mentioned here, unfortunately without a conclusive answer.
P.P.S.: Hi everyone, I'm jctan, new to the forum, and possibly new A-bike owner. :-) I'm already a Brompton owner but looking for something smaller and more portable.

Re: How to tell if an A-Bike is real or fake

Post by Stevbike on Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:21 am

When I was riding my copy A-bicycle I noted this cracking on the rear tube as well but used a method to repair it. I just placed a hose clamp around the damaged to stop the crack from growing. It never got as bad as your bike.

I think that the original A-bike has had this happen as well. It is the the way the part is designed and made that could be causing the problem. There is a great amount of stress in that area of the from. It has ben a while since I was on this site so it is nice to be back. Given that the bike is lighter then a regular bike, one most take care when using any of these bikes.

elucid8 wrote:OK, so I bought an "A-Bicycle" knowing that it wasn't a real A-Bike. My thinking was I didn't want to fork out AU$500 without at least having a test ride. So, I spent AU$70 over eBay.

I can now assert that I LOVE the A-Bike design, but also suspect that anything less than a genuine A-Bike could well be a death-trap. Luckily, the following happened to me as I was trundling slowly along a footpath, not riding alongside traffic on a roadway...

http://ow.ly/i/alqu
http://ow.ly/i/alqx
http://ow.ly/i/alqA

I will be placing my online order for a genuine Sinclair A-Bike directly :)

Re: How to tell if an A-Bike is real or fake

Post by Amuro Lee on Sun May 22, 2011 9:08 pm

Ben Royston, Design Engineer at Mayhem UK tells you how to differentiate genuine and fake A-bikes. :wink:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/video.php?v=10150306302701493

Re: How to tell if an A-Bike is real or fake

Post by elucid8 on Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:23 am

OK, so I bought an "A-Bicycle" knowing that it wasn't a real A-Bike. My thinking was I didn't want to fork out AU$500 without at least having a test ride. So, I spent AU$70 over eBay.

I can now assert that I LOVE the A-Bike design, but also suspect that anything less than a genuine A-Bike could well be a death-trap. Luckily, the following happened to me as I was trundling slowly along a footpath, not riding alongside traffic on a roadway...

http://ow.ly/i/alqu
http://ow.ly/i/alqx
http://ow.ly/i/alqA

I will be placing my online order for a genuine Sinclair A-Bike directly :)

Re: How to tell if an A-Bike is real or fake

Post by Amuro Lee on Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:19 am

hockinsk wrote:I've read this thread a few times, but no mention of what is physically different between a real and a fake A-Bike? Only discussion seems to be stickers and perhaps build quality, but what are the actual differences in materials & components please?

Actually, it is difficult to differentiate genuines and fakes by a galance. You can only differentiate them by workmanship, built quility and markings on the frames. However, the plastic parts used on fakes are much brittler and weaker than those used on genuines. The quality of aluminium parts used on fakes are also lower than genuines.

Heat treated 6061T6 aluminium alloy is used on the metal parts of the frame of a genuine A-bike:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6061_aluminium

30-45% GF PA66 polymer composite is used on the plastic parts of a genuine A-bike:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass-reinforced_plastic
http://www.abikecentral.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=272

Re: How to tell if an A-Bike is real or fake

Post by hockinsk on Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:46 pm

I've read this thread a few times, but no mention of what is physically different between a real and a fake A-Bike? Only discussion seems to be stickers and perhaps build quality, but what are the actual differences in materials & components please?

Re: How to tell if an A-Bike is real or fake

Post by Amuro Lee on Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:32 am

Guest wrote:There's a wholesaler called Lightinthebox who is selling A-bikes at non-wholesale price for $169 USD. Would anyone be able to confirm whether this might be authentic?

http://www.lightinthebox.com/Free-Shipp ... 50375.html

No, this is definitely not authentic.

airness1977 wrote:I don't understand then why the other user of the forum said the "Qing Da" tyres brand were FAKE...?

Since the post was posted long time ago, the "Qing Da" tyres were only used on fake A-bikes when the poster said this. The "Qing Da" tyres have been using on genuine A-bikes since the "Plus" version.

Re: How to tell if an A-Bike is real or fake

Post by frank_c on Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:56 am

Well -- I just bought an A-Bike copy with 8 inch wheels off Ebay. It looked very solid and competently put together, until I took it for a spin on a flat bicycle track. The ride (especially with the saddle flexing ever so slightly from the left to the right while riding) felt kind of "wobbly". I have never ridden a genuine A-Bike, so can anyone tell me if this is the case with the original A-Bike as well?

But more importantly, the angle at which the handlebar post is welded to the handlebar is not exactly 90 degrees, which is something I only noticed while riding the bike.
I guess that's one clear tell-tale sign of shoddy craftsmanship...

Frank, The Hague

Re: How to tell if an A-Bike is real or fake

Post by Guest on Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:43 pm

There's a wholesaler called Lightinthebox who is selling A-bikes at non-wholesale price for $169 USD. Would anyone be able to confirm whether this might be authentic?

http://www.lightinthebox.com/Free-Shipp ... 50375.html

Re: How to tell if an A-Bike is real or fake

Post by andrewloves on Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:48 pm

And more fake chinese ones here on Ebay - any colour you like....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0499880693
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